a whatsapp conversation
Me: Have your feeling towards India deepened or loosened over the last 15 years? I am generally asking, to myself, why does it happen? This push and pull...is it the question of identity, or identification?
He: I don't know, but I think some of it has loosened and some
of it has deepened. I can't put my finger on it. I think I will forever be in
this "I don't belong here" mode both in India and the US
Me: Yes, the question of belonging. Or the question of
finding home...
He: For an immigrant, it's a different experience
Me: Yes. But I am speaking of home in a more conceptual, philosophical way. Orientations of this question may be from different places
He: Well, home is a fluid concept. Depending on what phase of life you are in.
Me: Elaborate?
He: Right now my home is wherever my wife and kids are,
because I am living with them every day and making memories. Once the kids grow
up, maybe "home" will be a different feeling. Growing up, home was
where my parents/siblings were. I think home depends on the people who you are
most closely connected to in a given phase of life.
Me: Is home always in relation to an 'other'?
He: I think so. We are social beings. If there were no
people, would you ever feel lonely? Loneliness comes because you feel excluded
from "people" around you
Me: Ah I never thought of it that way. Do you think animals
feel lonely?
He: Loneliness can never occur without people. I don't think
animals are lonely.
Me: You mean the concept of loneliness exist in human species
only. It's a human concept?
He: I think so. Words are human concepts. So, if you use a word to describe anything it is a human concept. Maybe animals have a language. And they do also feel lonely. But it may not be similar to human loneliness. We tend to project our concepts/emotions to other beings. Because we are limited in our expression
Me: But words are placeholders for meaning...and meaning
exists in all species no?
He: I don't know. If I were bacteria, is my meaning to just
multiply? Meaning/purpose are all human concepts.
Me: And why not?
He: Evolution doesn't care about it
Me: True.
He: Evolution only cares about propagating the species
He: The world is only as complicated as we think it is. It's
a projection of our mind/brain. We create our own "hallucination" of
the world. The way we think it is
Me: True. That's what philosophical inquiry is all about
He: I'm becoming a believer of the thought that it's all
about what stories we tell ourselves. Meditation really helps me observe my
thoughts. And I am realizing that there is no
"meaning/purpose/reason" of life other than to live it :) There is no
deep mystery that needs to be solved. There is not much value in over analyzing.
But that is me speaking today, ask me in 5 years and may be I'll give you a
completely different answer😀
Me: 🙂
He: I haven't changed my behavior, nor have my thoughts changed, but meditation really helps with observing how your mind works :) The concept of "awareness", I feel is quite powerful. There is no mysticism in any of this…Just awareness...And it's very hard to be "aware", being in the moment, because your mind is thinking a billion things. Not that thinking is bad. But you need moments of clear awareness, however brief to cut through all of that thinking
Me: Hmm. It sounds difficult in the way you put it. Also
elusive...
He: Hmm...you won't know until you try :)
Me: Hehehe. Yes. I know!
He: An analogy I liked is - imagine you are looking at the
water, trying to find something deep within, whereas all you have to do is to
change your plane of focus so that you can see your own reflection. Once that
shift in perception happens, it seems very obvious. But until then, you will
keep looking at the wrong plane of focus. It really is at the surface of your
mind, not something deep within
Anyways enough of all this :)