Discussing Drawings

(the above text is by Pratik Dhanmer)

me:  what do you think may be an answer to the question he raises?

 sidthemonster:  this is a very complicated question

 me:  hai naa

...

 sidthemonster:  actually a bit of it reminds me of this article on ayn rand

she was an extreme individualist

 me:  idealist...

 sidthemonster:  and her books' heroes/heroines are based on her

 me:  yeah

 sidthemonster:  no no

idealist yes

but individualist

 me:  ok

 sidthemonster:  and she was so extreme that she actually praised a serial killer who raped and murdered little girls

 sidthemonster:  effectively saying he is being individualistic (i.e. doing what he likes)  and not letting "society" come in the way of what he wants to do

 me:  no, but i dont agree to this simplistic resolution of his

 sidthemonster:  and that's my problem too

and my problem with ayn rand

having too many rules is an issue

having none is a major issue

 me:  why does this process of preparing architectural drawings become so tedious?

 sidthemonster:  for that matter everything routine gets tedious. fact of life

when u drew as a kid it was ur escape from routine

now drawing is your routine

like i actually enjoyed studying for gre

i used to hate it in school

i was the last minute study types

also at work, i basically manage projects. Barely draw

for the last 2 weeks I've been drawing continuously without needing to manage projects

 me:  but it think, its more to do with the thought before putting it on paper - we think too much before we draw as architects

 sidthemonster:  and it's been so phenomenally exciting

 me:  exactly

 sidthemonster:  i wouldn't say so

kids think before they draw too

 me:  ummm

 sidthemonster:  only they perhaps dont think aloud

 me:  kids don't have the burden of responsibility in drawing

we have it

 sidthemonster:  true                                          

 me:  there is a correctness that has to be adhered to

a code

 sidthemonster:  but that would be a personal thing

some ppl love the responsiibility

some ppl dont

 me:  ummm

i do think it's more than routine

routine is definitely there

 sidthemonster:  what do u think

it is the reason why i stress on the routine thing is perhaps by nature i don't like to get tied down to one thing and I've experienced the same love/hate with drawing very intimately

 me:  do painters get bored of painting?

 me:  what makes us decide then to do architecture?

isnt it drawing?

or is it what?

i dont konw

it wasnt drawing for me

 sidthemonster:  it wasnt for me either

i.e. drawing

i duno why the link between arch and drawing is so tight

drawing is just one of the means

i mean rem koolhas is a journalist by profession

 me:  yeah, how else do you claim B Arch?

 sidthemonster:  and his language to describe/invent/create arch is writing

 me:  interesting

 sidthemonster:  or take even kenneth frampton

or any of the photographers who do such beautiful work with space

 me:  well

so it's the eye

 sidthemonster:  the issue is drawing is our tool of creation

 me:  the eye makes you the architect

 sidthemonster:  or the brain

 me:  so are you suggesting there could be a blind architect

?

 sidthemonster:  and just like engineers cannot fetishize their instruments, architects shouldnt too

yes of course!

i mean we talk of experiences

all the time

and experience is related to all 5 senses

 me:  ummm

brain is a very vivid answer

 sidthemonster:  u dont hear engineers going into paroxysms about beautiful java code

 me:  ?

never

  sidthemonster:  in a way what happens

i thnk is like how when ur a kid and ur trying to learn a strange new language

like say english for ppl our age

 me:  hmm

 sidthemonster:  and ppl talk to u in English

jus so u get better at it i thnk in a  way its the same with drawing for us

that a lot of the fetishizing is to get an interest and acquaintaance with a new way of expressing urself

 me:  hmmm

but what happens to this language?

we dont get fed up of it?

do we?

 sidthemonster:  eventaully it becomes a part of u

 me:  do we get fed up of english?

then why get bored?

 sidthemonster:  it becomes a way of expression

because drawing is also our tool

and just as ppl get bored of dal-rice

(i should have a better metaphor there)

oh oh

writers

they get bored of writing

van gogh almost killed himself with booredom frm painting

 me:  my god

there are traces

only you could recount!

 sidthemonster:  lol

 me:  but i do feel it is something to do with cognition

think of the tribal artists

 sidthemonster:  ok

 me:  dont they get bored of painting, if thats their work in life?

well they must be

but if one gets bored, it reflects in work

 sidthemonster:  the thing is, it ISNT

 me:  you can see that in architectural drawings

 sidthemonster:  madhubani paintings are done during diwali, traditionally

and warli paintings are also to celebrate religious occasions

so its not their job

its like drawing a rangoli

or lighting a diya every evening

and we went on...